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Me too. On an A road last Monday it decided that I was too near the side of the road and applied the brakes to the two outside wheels. As it was in the middle of an s bend I was driving appropriately to the conditions but the car decided otherwise. Like you I tried to replicate the effect but failed.

Along with the parking assist, there are some things about the car that I have to be convinced as to their usefulness.

But other new features are just knockout.
What's up with parking assist?
 
I tried my paring assustvthe other day I had to slam my breaks on because it flew into the space and nearly hit the car behind me lol
The park assist is just that, it assist with the steering, it does not do the whole job. You have to control the throttle and accelerator, although the car will help with distance from obstacles and it steers for you.


I am guessing that this is the first car you have had with park assist. This video might help you, it is based on an older model but the basics are the same.

 
The a class has active park assist. YouTube videos show that you don't need to apply brake or acceleration during the procedure
A small remark: you don't need to do anything when you have the automatic transmission (probably most buyers have that), you still need to change gears, accelerate and brake when you have the manual transmission, than it's just the steering that's automatic.
 
The a class has active park assist. YouTube videos show that you don't need to apply brake or acceleration during the procedure
I think you will find that they do, probably just take it for granted that people would know that, otherwise it would be call Auto Parking, not Park Assist.
 
The a class has active park assist. YouTube videos show that you don't need to apply brake or acceleration during the procedure
I think you will find that they do, probably just take it for granted that people would know that, otherwise it would be call Auto Parking, not Park Assist.
You definitely do not need to apply brake or throttle with active park assist, assuming you have automatic transmission. I have tried it several times, and once you’ve selected the space for the car, it will steer, drive, select gears and brake.
 
Well as much as I thought I’d experienced the LKA I obviously hadn’t till today. Got the wheel pull and a screen display of the car in top down view with a red line down the side of the car where I’d drifted
 
I think the lane keeping assist is hard to “test” because it is design to help if you drift and I do not think it is easy to knowing “drift” over the line. Although, the harsh redirection people have spoken about occurs when it is a solid line. It does not seem to do it on a broken line. It is more subtle when you drift over the broken lines. This could be because it is a possibility that you could cross the broken line to overtake but the car would not be programmed to expect someone to cross the solid line.

The park assist is an interesting one and is probably a thread in itself because I am confused by what it does and the participation of the driver. The manual suggests that you pick the spot and let the car do its thing with the driver being there to check for obstacles (should a pedestrian or similar get in the way). The one time I have used it so far did not feel like that is how it was in reality. The car did move it self into the first part of the manoeuvre but seemed very jerky in applying the brakes and made really awful noise as it approached the car behind (it had not hit anything). It done the same when it moved forward to straighten itself up. It was almost like it had marked where it wanted me to brake but had to do it itself because I hadn’t.
 
I think the lane keeping assist is hard to “test” because it is design to help if you drift and I do not think it is easy to knowing “drift” over the line. Although, the harsh redirection people have spoken about occurs when it is a solid line. It does not seem to do it on a broken line. It is more subtle when you drift over the broken lines. This could be because it is a possibility that you could cross the broken line to overtake but the car would not be programmed to expect someone to cross the solid line.

The park assist is an interesting one and is probably a thread in itself because I am confused by what it does and the participation of the driver. The manual suggests that you pick the spot and let the car do its thing with the driver being there to check for obstacles (should a pedestrian or similar get in the way). The one time I have used it so far did not feel like that is how it was in reality. The car did move it self into the first part of the manoeuvre but seemed very jerky in applying the brakes and made really awful noise as it approached the car behind (it had not hit anything). It done the same when it moved forward to straighten itself up. It was almost like it had marked where it wanted me to brake but had to do it itself because I hadn’t.

I've only tried the park assist once and I confess: I bottled out halfway through and took over myself. I think this probably says more about me than about the car, but part of the problem lies with the ambiguity of the system manual. It warns you to be ready to brake, but you don't know whether this is telling you that you have to do this part yourself, or whether it is there as part of the "you are always responsible for everything that happens on the road, don't come crying to us if it all goes wrong" spiel that permeates every active assist system. I can't think of any reason why it would not brake, but who wants to take the chance?


It would be nice to find somewhere to practice for half an hour without the pressure of other drivers trying to park, but I suspect that isn't practical for many people.


What all this confirms in my mind is something I have suspected for a while: full autonomy in vehicles is a very long way off indeed. Leaving aside the fact that the technology is nowhere near being able to cope with the complex driving situations we find ourselves in every day, laws on negligence and liability will take a long time to develop and, most of all, most people who have been driving for any length of time will find it very difficult to adjust to giving control of driving to the vehicle. Personally, I don't even want to; I enjoy driving. If I want to be driven somewhere I'll take a cab, it's a lot more sensible than forking out ÂŁ30,000+ for a car to do it for me on the odd occasion.
 
A balanced and very accurate appraisal Saunders and mirrors my own thoughts exactly on the parts of the car i could do without instead of getting the useful bits like bigger screens, all marketing i suppose and Mercedes has never been known for being generous, 4 wheels and a steering wheel by the way of 'extras'.
 
It begs the question with these new system, if there is an accident who is to blame.

I tried mine first and used the pedal myself, yesterday I tried again without the pedals (I've had the car a month and only tried twice), and noticed that it shows you on the screen where it is going to stop. I worked fine but it still worrying. What would have happened if it hit a car or a pedestrian.


Officer: Are you the driver of this car?
Me: No officer.
Officer: Who was driving then?
Me: Well the car was driving itself.
Officer: OK, Mercedes can have the fine and points.
 
It begs the question with these new system, if there is an accident who is to blame.

I tried mine first and used the pedal myself, yesterday I tried again without the pedals (I've had the car a month and only tried twice), and noticed that it shows you on the screen where it is going to stop. I worked fine but it still worrying. What would have happened if it hit a car or a pedestrian.


Officer: Are you the driver of this car?
Me: No officer.
Officer: Who was driving then?
Me: Well the car was driving itself.
Officer: OK, Mercedes can have the fine and points.

Well there's the rub: the driver is responsible, which is why the manufacturer goes out of it's way to spell it out.


There hasn't been a test case yet that I'm aware of where someone has attempted to sue a manufacturer for the failure of an autonomous feature that has led to an accident. Although many other types of vehicle failure - brakes, steering etc - have led to actionable cases, the law currently requires that the person in control of the car is responsible for everything, which is why even the most optimistic commentators on vehicle autonomy are not predicting when the level 5 complete autonomy, will be achievable.
 
I believe the lane keeping assist won't be around for long and will be replaced with the full driving assist. We're just a bit stuck in between. But at least the current generation is ready to take on the 11 required safety assist measures from the European Union (2021 will probably mean a facelift of the car though and perhaps driving assist as standard, so I think they're a bit ahead of the curve).

I can understand they have the two systems, the lane assist only requires a simple camera, the driving assist needs a front cam, stereoscopic sensors and LIDAR/RADAR. I wish the automatic braking would be flawless but you can still crash into someone at low speeds, that's a more severe letdown than haphazard lane assist. I read somewhere it had to do with a blind spot between long range RADAR and short range LIDAR where the middle range is missing. The car will slow down but NCAP videos show the car happily and slowly smashing into the car in front. So either go really fast and hope the car succesfully brakes or go as slow as turtle but then you can brake yourself. In the meantime, the red car icon is good enough for me to increase my distance manually. No need for it to start beeping and trying to brake as a "test".
 
Found my first problem with the lane keep assist today and starting to think that this Safety Aid is more of a Danger Aid

I was driving down the Motorway and was in the outside lane ready to follow the road off at the next junction, along side me was a truck who was in the lane to stay on the Motorway. The truck then decided to sway into my lane, forcing me to take evasive action onto the hard shoulder. I was more interested in not being hit then indicating, so I steered over the white line, only for the lane assist to throw me back into the lane I was trying to get out of. Luckily at the same time the truck driver realised he was swaying and moved back into his lane, but it could have been different.
 
Found my first problem with the lane keep assist today and starting to think that this Safety Aid is more of a Danger Aid

I was driving down the Motorway and was in the outside lane ready to follow the road off at the next junction, along side me was a truck who was in the lane to stay on the Motorway. The truck then decided to sway into my lane, forcing me to take evasive action onto the hard shoulder. I was more interested in not being hit then indicating, so I steered over the white line, only for the lane assist to throw me back into the lane I was trying to get out of. Luckily at the same time the truck driver realised he was swaying and moved back into his lane, but it could have been different.
Hmm. This seems quite scary!!
 
Found my first problem with the lane keep assist today and starting to think that this Safety Aid is more of a Danger Aid

I was driving down the Motorway and was in the outside lane ready to follow the road off at the next junction, along side me was a truck who was in the lane to stay on the Motorway. The truck then decided to sway into my lane, forcing me to take evasive action onto the hard shoulder. I was more interested in not being hit then indicating, so I steered over the white line, only for the lane assist to throw me back into the lane I was trying to get out of. Luckily at the same time the truck driver realised he was swaying and moved back into his lane, but it could have been different.

That was the sort of scenario I was worried about, where the car's idea of a safety move didn't take account of the situation properly.


I'll continue to turn mine off whenever planning a motorway journey. I'm hoping they include the ability to save settings as an OTA update at some point.
 
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