Don't know much about their unit, but I would hazard a guess of gains in the region of 40bhp and 400+bhp yes?Seems the norm for all the units on the market to be honest. I liked the RENNtech unit myself due to it's flexibility of it having different settings available for hotter climates/fuel quality etc..


Not sure if the Eutocharged unit does the same or not tbh.

 

Thanks.would like to hear if anyone has a eurocharged system and if we have dome comparisons between them.

 

I've heard that the plug n play is a bit dodge. Well not dodge but not the safest method. What my mate said: "wat the plug and play does is intercept the ecu mappings and changes them. as it is intercepting and rewriting signals to the ecu, it cud cause cr@p if the ecu for instance senses slip on the car and kicks in to correct it for u, or there is a surge of power to the ecu and it need to cut it off for safety of the chip...it might not get a chance to do it as the plug and play box will be causing conflicts in messages to ecu"

This is all new to me so I'm not sure. He suggested checking STO chipping. I'm sure there's a branch in JHB. These guys app flash to stock for free when you want to take your car in for a service.

 

Hi Guys,

Just a quick one, Some of the boxes are known to put on warning lights etc and is well documented.

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Our stage 1 system is a completely undetectable system that</span>intelligentlytunes the car. This has been developed and tested for over half a year on the A45</span>specifically to add to that we have 35+ Stage 1 cars around the world running safely and putting out over 400BHP.


The Stage 1 is not adjustable to ensure that it is not accidentally pushed too far on the wrong fuel for example, this is key when running 95 Ron for example. It auto calculates fuel Quality and changes for this.


We are using this technology on many other vehicles including the 5.5 Bi Turbo AMG cars and Rolls Royce Ghosts to name a few.


ECU Remaps are not available yet and when they are you must consider that the ECU has been amended and can be detected.


Feel free to ask any questions


Regards,


Matt
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Edited by: Matt@Rebellion

 

I had a brabus chipfittedto my A45 yesterday and have to say it seems to work smoothly and increase power without affecting any other part of the MB warranty other than the engine. Brabus then warranty the engine. I had a brabus also fitted to my previous MB an E350 cdi. You just need to make sure with the A45 brabus that you watch your speed as you will be going faster than you realise compared to the pre-chipped car.

The thing about this chip I don't understand is that MB UK do not approve it but they tend to approve most brabus diesel chips as they had with my E-Class.


I am sure other mods are equally good but this is one make which I have had past positive experience of. Power is up to about 394 bhp (400 hp) and close 400 lbs ft. So far, and my car, which is very low mileage, I think the chassis is handling the extra power well. Only a hint of torque steer yesterday on the first dry day in England this year. but I am not sure it could handle too much more without becoming less than composed.

 

Could I be cheeky and ask who supplied it and how much it was?

Just deciding which tuning way to go.....

 

Not cheap. Just over £2.3K. I wanted to make sure there was no adverse impact on the warranty and I'm never going to be able to get away with buying a porche turbo by my wife. So this is the best I can hope for. And I don't think it's second best either by a long way £ for £.

 

Jesus!!! If i do go S1 which is getting more and more likely (after run in) then Rebellion will be my route

 

How does the Brabus unit connect?

I know others connect to around 4 places in the engine.

 

The insurance is a big issue. I cancelled my policy and went with another company as they offered a price of less than half the quote from the existing company I was with. And the excess is also a lot less. The underwriters ask questions through the insurance co. about why you want the chip. I don't know if one type of chip over another helps so you need to research that. Especially as the car computer will remember you had it chipped even if you pull it out.

 

The previous unit I could see. This one I haven't been able to locate yet. But the technician spent a lot of time inside the car under the dash.

 

The insurance is a big issue. I cancelled my policy and went with another company as they offered a price of less than half the quote from the existing company I was with. And the excess is also a lot less. The underwriters ask questions through the insurance co. about why you want the chip. I don't know if one type of chip over another helps so you need to research that. Especially as the car computer will remember you had it chipped even if you pull it out.

Car computer remembering........ This contradicts all that Rebellion have said? Matt care to repeat yourself.

 

Even if you can erase the computer memory you'd need to be pretty together to pull it out and erase the memory after a smash while you're waiting for the tow truck. Could mean a very expensive situation.

 

Even if you can erase the computer memory you'd need to be pretty together to pull it out and erase the memory after a smash while you're waiting for the tow truck. Could mean a very expensive situation.

That's for insurance reasons though and if you roll the dice on that one then you are playing with fire (especially with a tuning box)..I think matey was referring to the warranty side of things..</span>

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All tuning boxes pretty much do the same thing and will all be within 20bhp of each other IMO. Some do offer extra features and flexibility though for future mods, different fuel, more aggressive power delivery etc. Where the Brabus unit differs is it's price/warranty. You are basically paying £1-1.5k for that warranty over other units and which route people take is down to them.. I would like to know what the warranty procedure actually is though? Do you simply take your car to the dealer and they cover the cost of any engine/drivetrain repairs if anything eats itself (even if it is unlikely IMO)?</span>

 

Well all have been told a 5 minute removal for the box and def is not traceable. Understand where your coming from though. But at £2.3k against £0.8k I think a lot will be happy to take the risk.

 

Agree with you Anchorman, insurance is a thing I deem to be something you have to pay by law and not something you aim to use. 28 years of driving and apart from someone rear ending me in Dec last year I have nothing to declare. If you are buying something on the grounds that it doesn't affect you if you crash then you are worried about crashing.

I did ask the question at the outset but then reasoned it through.

 

I've been told by MB and Brabus, on the warranty, if anything goes wrong with the engine you just go to the MB dealer and it gets dealt with seamlessly as any other MB warranty work. But I would be surprised if I ever need to test that. Although I know blown turbos have been an issue with early A45s and they were replaced where necessary.

 

The insurance is a big issue. I cancelled my policy and went with another company as they offered a price of less than half the quote from the existing company I was with. And the excess is also a lot less. The underwriters ask questions through the insurance co. about why you want the chip. I don't know if one type of chip over another helps so you need to research that. Especially as the car computer will remember you had it chipped even if you pull it out.

Car computer remembering........ This contradicts all that Rebellion have said? Matt care to repeat yourself.

Will say it again


Our unit is not traceable, we use ex AMG and Brabus engineers in the design, Development and Testing phases so trust me they know their stuff

 

The insurance is a big issue. I cancelled my policy and went with another company as they offered a price of less than half the quote from the existing company I was with. And the excess is also a lot less. The underwriters ask questions through the insurance co. about why you want the chip. I don't know if one type of chip over another helps so you need to research that. Especially as the car computer will remember you had it chipped even if you pull it out.

Car computer remembering........ This contradicts all that Rebellion have said? Matt care to repeat yourself.

Will say it again


Our unit is not traceable, we use ex AMG and Brabus engineers in the design, Development and Testing phases so trust me they know their stuff

Would have thought you would have mentioned that from the start...?

Seems a good selling point to me!

 

The insurance is a big issue. I cancelled my policy and went with another company as they offered a price of less than half the quote from the existing company I was with. And the excess is also a lot less. The underwriters ask questions through the insurance co. about why you want the chip. I don't know if one type of chip over another helps so you need to research that. Especially as the car computer will remember you had it chipped even if you pull it out.

Car computer remembering........ This contradicts all that Rebellion have said? Matt care to repeat yourself.

Will say it again


Our unit is not traceable, we use ex AMG and Brabus engineers in the design, Development and Testing phases so trust me they know their stuff

Devil's Advocate here

Hypothetically Matt, what would happen if a customer of yours had a failure on the engine/drivetrain of their car and lets say that the dealer DID somehow find a trace of the box and refused the warranty claim. Where exactly would they stand?
Don't get me wrong, I know these boxes are pretty much invisible once removed and I am not only confident that the car will be reliable, but also that if there were any issues 99.9% of dealers would be clueless that the car had ever been modded. Hence why I will be going Stage 1 myself.
But what if?


Edited by: Anchorman

 

I agree I am sure the brabus and other chips are equally reliable but what if there was a trace of the non-brabus chip after something went wrong, even after it was disconnected. But also if the MB dealer or MB head office asked you in writing had your car been chipped. How should you reply.