I just wanted to buy a litre of top-up oil for my new A200 petrol engine. Would I be correct in thinking that any fully synthetic 0W-20 oil would be suitable.
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Have a look here, firstly look up your engine type, and see which MB spec of oil it needs.
eg if you have a M260 Engine, you’ll need a 229.52 (amongst others) spec of oil.
Oil Specifications per engine:
Then the 229.52 sheet will give you all the brands/type of oils that meets MB 229.52 spec.
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eg if you have a M260 Engine, you’ll need a 229.52 (amongst others) spec of oil.
Oil Specifications per engine:
Then the 229.52 sheet will give you all the brands/type of oils that meets MB 229.52 spec.
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A35 What engine oil?
My A35 has reached one year old and was due to have it's first service today. My dealer, a couple of weeks back, sent a message saying they were shutting down all operations till further notice so it's not going to be serviced. Firstly I assume this will have no affect on my warranty etc. and...
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Actually, viscosity is dependent on market and location. So you can get 229.52 5W-30 and 229.52 0W-40, the UK is OK for both.
As long as it says M-B 229.52 or M-B 229.71 or any of the approved specs on the side of the bottle, you’re good to go.
Additionally - it if just a top up of 1 litre of less - you can pretty much use any high street synthetic oil that meets MB 229.31 or better.
(Any oil is better than no oil.....
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As long as it says M-B 229.52 or M-B 229.71 or any of the approved specs on the side of the bottle, you’re good to go.
Additionally - it if just a top up of 1 litre of less - you can pretty much use any high street synthetic oil that meets MB 229.31 or better.
(Any oil is better than no oil.....
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I would stick to the thicker grade 5W30. With all the head failures, it's better to have a little thicker oil. I've used 5W30 Castrol Edge, mercedes version, from the beginning on my A35 AMG.
I have tried to research the correct oil to get as a top up for my 2019 A35 but I am having problems.
Dealer carried out 4th year service slightly early as part of the deal which included the transmission service. Electronic service record states Shell Helix 0/30, however it does not state which sub type. I believe there are several of these, some using different esters (mineral or synth etc) What should I buy? This really isn't good for my OCD !
Dealer carried out 4th year service slightly early as part of the deal which included the transmission service. Electronic service record states Shell Helix 0/30, however it does not state which sub type. I believe there are several of these, some using different esters (mineral or synth etc) What should I buy? This really isn't good for my OCD !
As top up oil, anything that says M-B 229.52 on the bottle is correct.
Viscosity is country dependent, for UK you can use 0W or 5W as the first number, and 20 or 30 on the second number. Eg: So 5W-30 is fine.
So what's the difference between these?
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Both are M-B 229.52
Is the "Professional" worth the small extra?
I bought my sub 15K miles 2019 A35 in the knowledge the head could go. Anything at all that might mitigate it will be welcome. I am only running Tesco Momentum fuel. No more Morrisons for me!
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Both are M-B 229.52
Is the "Professional" worth the small extra?
I bought my sub 15K miles 2019 A35 in the knowledge the head could go. Anything at all that might mitigate it will be welcome. I am only running Tesco Momentum fuel. No more Morrisons for me!
My A35 is on 13K miles and I've only used Castrol Edge 5W30 M for all services. This is a slightly thicker oil than 0W30 and I haven't had any engine issues, neither have I needed any top ups between services. I also own a gen 1 Porsche 997 and these cars have a widespread known fault with cylinder bore scoring. Hartech are one of the most respected engine specialists in the country, who have also designed and developed industry leading solutions to this issue. Porsche also specify a 0W30 oil for these cars, but Hartech who have rebuilt hundreds of these engines, recommend a thicker oil of at least 10W50 viscosity. Obviously our engines are different, but the principle of not using oil that's as thin as water is what should be of concern, when it's flowing through and coating engine parts.
I just wanted to share my input, I've always used 229.72 on my W177 A180; surely if a newer spec is compatible, it should be better for fuel efficiency etc. This year the lubrication sheet was updated on 01/01/24 to exclude 229.52 on our petrol M282 engines.
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I do know that 0w20 is thinner than 5w30; although the fact the oil is getting changed annually quite negates this factor. I've used Mobil1 from Kwik-fit this year but will be taking it to a friend to service this year.
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I did ask Newcastle Mercedes on eBay for w177 service kit replacing 229.52 with 229.72 and was pleasantly surprised to see Mercedes offering this at a similar price of 229.52 - £60.78 incl vat/pp. Plus I can use the current 10% eBay code through the reward gateway and pair it with the 3% Barclays Blue cashback for this week.
They will be adding the new kit with 229.72 on eBay shortly and are in the process of updating it for other vehicle changes too
I didn't go with the air filter/cabin from Mercedes, I thought it was too expensive - so choose Bosch for the air filter Mann/Bosch has a biofunctional cabin filter (supposedly filters viruses too, similar to a face mask) on top of the usual carbon activated one. They had a leap20 code recently.
In reviews, Hengst seems to be performing really well and apparently, Mercedes usually does use Hengst filters - but I've always been a Mann person myself lol. Bosch has always been a mid player.
I do know that 0w20 is thinner than 5w30; although the fact the oil is getting changed annually quite negates this factor. I've used Mobil1 from Kwik-fit this year but will be taking it to a friend to service this year.
I did ask Newcastle Mercedes on eBay for w177 service kit replacing 229.52 with 229.72 and was pleasantly surprised to see Mercedes offering this at a similar price of 229.52 - £60.78 incl vat/pp. Plus I can use the current 10% eBay code through the reward gateway and pair it with the 3% Barclays Blue cashback for this week.
They will be adding the new kit with 229.72 on eBay shortly and are in the process of updating it for other vehicle changes too
I didn't go with the air filter/cabin from Mercedes, I thought it was too expensive - so choose Bosch for the air filter Mann/Bosch has a biofunctional cabin filter (supposedly filters viruses too, similar to a face mask) on top of the usual carbon activated one. They had a leap20 code recently.
In reviews, Hengst seems to be performing really well and apparently, Mercedes usually does use Hengst filters - but I've always been a Mann person myself lol. Bosch has always been a mid player.
Hengst is a large OE supplier, no worries there.
(I’ve just installed a Hengst oil separator on a EA888.3 engine)
(I’ve just installed a Hengst oil separator on a EA888.3 engine)
I've done the servicing today myself and learnt a few quirks on the A180.
The tools required I got all from Halfords and done within an hour outside Halfords
The drain plug/oil filter socket sizing is exactly the same as the Renault Captur, so the tools required are:
The Halfords jack will not lift the car, you'll need the low-profile version. The standard Silverline jack that I've owned for over 10 years does. I used two jacks to get enough ground clearance but probably best to use stands!
I have never used the jack adapters ever on this car, but I have now broken a jacking point. Please do buy an jacking adapter unlike me!
There are 11 metal screws holding the undertray, these are 8mm regular hex. There are 2 plastic rivets holding the undertray on both sides, using the rivet removal tool you can remove those.
Similar situation to the oil filter/drain housing, it's held in by plastic rivets/dimples.
The drain plug can be removed uses the 8mm square socket, the oil filter 27mm hex socket now.
Now the filling situation, I have noticed the display shows full even when I added 4L of oil, the car definitely is not full and requires 5.1L of engine oil.
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So use the 'Technical Data' screen on the workshop menu (accessed by holding back for a second and then the center trackball for 5 seconds on the main display) - the menu will appear as an option. To access the live data of oil capacity and it will tell you how much extra is required to fill. The sensor does report higher than 5.1L when driving (e.g. 5.6L etc, expected when oil is running around - so check when car is stationary and ran for a few mins to see how much to top-up).
It's also recommended to use the menu to have the oil temperature at 90 degrees before draining the oil.
Do not trust the Service menu which shows a graphical full - this was a lie! Btw, noticed Kwik Fit did not top-up 5.1L of oil as I had the old oil fill just below the MB 5L container...
Thanks to this German chap, I was able to understand it all!
The air filter can be done without removing the ECU screws:
The cabin filter was really easy, I used a man biofunctional filter which included the plastic cap, I've kept the OEM one incase I go back to carbon filters.
All in all - it was a very fun experience, would do it again
The tools required I got all from Halfords and done within an hour outside Halfords
The drain plug/oil filter socket sizing is exactly the same as the Renault Captur, so the tools required are:
The Halfords jack will not lift the car, you'll need the low-profile version. The standard Silverline jack that I've owned for over 10 years does. I used two jacks to get enough ground clearance but probably best to use stands!
I have never used the jack adapters ever on this car, but I have now broken a jacking point. Please do buy an jacking adapter unlike me!
There are 11 metal screws holding the undertray, these are 8mm regular hex. There are 2 plastic rivets holding the undertray on both sides, using the rivet removal tool you can remove those.
Similar situation to the oil filter/drain housing, it's held in by plastic rivets/dimples.
The drain plug can be removed uses the 8mm square socket, the oil filter 27mm hex socket now.
Now the filling situation, I have noticed the display shows full even when I added 4L of oil, the car definitely is not full and requires 5.1L of engine oil.
So use the 'Technical Data' screen on the workshop menu (accessed by holding back for a second and then the center trackball for 5 seconds on the main display) - the menu will appear as an option. To access the live data of oil capacity and it will tell you how much extra is required to fill. The sensor does report higher than 5.1L when driving (e.g. 5.6L etc, expected when oil is running around - so check when car is stationary and ran for a few mins to see how much to top-up).
It's also recommended to use the menu to have the oil temperature at 90 degrees before draining the oil.
Do not trust the Service menu which shows a graphical full - this was a lie! Btw, noticed Kwik Fit did not top-up 5.1L of oil as I had the old oil fill just below the MB 5L container...
Thanks to this German chap, I was able to understand it all!
The air filter can be done without removing the ECU screws:
The cabin filter was really easy, I used a man biofunctional filter which included the plastic cap, I've kept the OEM one incase I go back to carbon filters.
All in all - it was a very fun experience, would do it again
Little update, purchased some MB 229.52 from the usual eBay Newcastle.
It seems anything with the label date of Sept 2024 now includes Fuchs branded MB oil, and not the usual Petronas labelling.
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Not sure if I would be buying Fuchs again - I can presume it is good oil but I'd prefer the more name brands.
It seems anything with the label date of Sept 2024 now includes Fuchs branded MB oil, and not the usual Petronas labelling.
Not sure if I would be buying Fuchs again - I can presume it is good oil but I'd prefer the more name brands.
A little reminder that “long life” oil change intervals are predominantly determined by marketing departments (in order to satisfy fleet/lease managers maintenance costs), rather than engineering departments………
So if you’re keeping your car long term, and/or have more arduous usage (eg short distances, performance use etc) - you may wish to consider more frequent changes.
Case in point…..
An A180 M282 1.3 petrol A-Class has the same oil change intervals, as the AMG A45s M139 engine, an engine so highly strung and operating at vastly different pressures and parameters. Yep. Makes complete sense 😂
So if you’re keeping your car long term, and/or have more arduous usage (eg short distances, performance use etc) - you may wish to consider more frequent changes.
Case in point…..
An A180 M282 1.3 petrol A-Class has the same oil change intervals, as the AMG A45s M139 engine, an engine so highly strung and operating at vastly different pressures and parameters. Yep. Makes complete sense 😂
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